Justification of fault or justice, crime or crisis, a mere perception or well placed exception.
It is neither easy nor justified to talk about an issue just blindly by going through emotions only. No I will not start by saying that I am a General Candidate or an OBC. But there are many many things that are beyond than only this mere tag, which existed in almost all Government employement forms ....
Cry on talent, cry on social injustice, some political plans, some well hyped histeria?
One issue which is deliberatly much hyped this time because of the media support, although this was a move that was badly needed some years before. That's clear I am not hyper about giving more chances to OBC's or not but I need to say that there is not a clear demarcation line that whether I or any one should go for a blind support of Arjun Singh or the so called talented boys who are protesting this all.
I know some people want to blow my head, if I am saying something against the activists and for those who are losing temper even before I actually said anything, I want to say overall I am in support of those activists and even ready to be with them if they go for rallies, hunger strikes, campaign, but note one thing how much, you are trying to make it touching and emotional, is moving into trash because of not that much inner and systematic attempts. No need of cracking voices, no need of media managers, no need of false spamming; try to blow the things by your Creative ideas and justified ways and everyone will be with you, prove that you are talented and know how to do the things in innovative ways. I have really seen some of them and really impressed by those way, because this is our character, talent's character.
Someone should have noticed why only Medicos went first for the issue not engineers? Unfortunately, I feel a bad patch for this generation of doctors, who like to be called as angels for saving lives and even then feel proud to go for strikes on every second issue. Have anyone seen Engineers going for strikes? If you are not getting support then the reason behind it is that you are loosing by this way. Media snapped you in the poses like Rang De Basanti but forgot to snap the patients crying and calling for help. Everyone asking that "Who the hell politicians are to decide the fate of talent?" but no one is asking that "What the patients have done wrong to them? Have all of them supported for Congress? Why to leave all of them for dying, only to show you are so powerful?". You are really not confident if you feel yourself so weak and not so intelligent, if you could not figure out some new ways, if you think that you are out of competition by having lesser number of seats to fight for.
In fact, the obvious reason for Doctors to come out for all this is so simple. When it comes to Engineers then they know how to find their ways and there are many competitions and ways for surviving but as for Doctors, I feel pity as they have lesser options and most of the times, they need their private clinics for practic and they even then they go for that, when they got pretisigious Government jobs. Obviously, one need money for that with the talent and that's why boys with strong economical backgrounds are heading to this way. Sorry for offence boys, but I got some sort of angry on you guys because I have seen the problems of patient and their helplessness. But I really know that it is a crisis for you if in this kind of problematic environment, you got lesser number of seats to competitte for, when these are already very few. In case of Engineer there are chances to revise the things and sometimes the mistakes could be forgiven but in case of Doctors, one mistake and you will never forgive yourself. Really, no one could call for reservation for such a field. Shame on people, who are supporting the idea.
Anyway, I know it was a really bad start to support some issue but its me, you need some of such strange styles. I just wanted to remind you guys that you are not completely unbeatable on moral grounds, so be prepared to be even more harder on the same issue as even I, if try to oppose then I have many things in support of OBC's. You are paying well for beleiving on Sonia' dramas of resignations and for the belief that Congress has got something new.
Ok! no problem guys, only two words make a WE, three words make an OUR, four words make the FIRE, five words make a MAGIC , six words make DESTINY and why to go for 7,8,9, when we got the destiny with us.
"We with our best fire will do magic to change this destiny forced upon us."
Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar had a note of caution for future governments—large scale reservation quotas could destroy the rule of equality of opportunity. He advocated that reservation quotas be consistent with Article 10 (now Article 14) of the constitution and must be confined to minority of seats.
But I will never come to know that what the cast certificates have to do with reservations and poors?
Reservation was not a fundamental right for any citizen to claim and never will be and that rights like Right to Employment ought to go by merit alone..Yes!! in case of SC/ST's, they might be asking and insisting for quotas but it was not really the case of OBC's as they know how to fight with Generals and I need not to point out that they are securing ranks without cast certificates and reservations proving that talent is something beyond some certificates. They were and are really really happy with that, but our leaders are deliberatly trying to divide population. So, do not put a hard line between Brahmins and Non-Brahmins, no Generals and Non-Generals, come on guys, you guys are playing in hands of big minds, who wanted to make a clear sepration and stirr between Generals and OBCs and got succeed in that finally. Think again, do you want the same kind of hate relations like we have unfortunately have made with SC/STs, with the people who are making 70% of whole population? We people who understand and fortunate to watch this politics closely just feel ourselves so helpless because media really do not know how to handle this kind of sensitive issues. After name of Youth, Muslims and Dalits, they were asking for some kind of new vote bank in favour of them and in this try, after lives many time, they are spoiling talent this time.
I really do not what to do to make this stopped and even then to continue with the heat without work strikes. I need all of you people's comments to join my hands, join for showing that talent is united above all racism. This is my first article on the same issue but is not intended to be the last one but I do not want to just write, I have to make this out like a campaign and if some guys are on hungr strikes then why we busy professionals could not make some time from checking mails and just searching googles or refreshing cricket scores.
I am really not knowing that at which plateform, I have to place myself for this campaign but I have a blog at http://nitishkumar.wordpress.com and the same article is there too, just a little request, could you all may make it a plateform for quality debate (for which I promise you) and I promise that I will not let you people's voice unnoticed. Come and give your best, we are talented in every field and only know one thing
"A winner is always winner.".
What is wrong in it, if the same kind of reservtion existed in all the institutions already then why IIT's and Medical College need to be so special. The same argument which support even in each Government job similar kind of reservation then why not in case of these institutions??
Only because of the reason that some money maker do nto want to help poors, because Media want to suplish and promote only peopel with money. Planned protests from the people, who to harrase and demoralize talented boys from the lower communities. About each selection board, you will hear similar stories.
Do you really think that each OBC boy is able to put 50 thousand for only coachings to somehow making into the medical so that his/her rich father could give him/her money to stand a new brand new clinic. Who is talented, people from lower communities who clear the competative exams in once or those who took more than 3 turns to somehow making it and everyone knows, they supresses actual talented guys by their resources in the colleges, sometime by ranging and sometime by any other means.
These so called talented boys complete their degrees with Cigrates, flirting and movies and finally when it come to placement then again money won. Now what else you need, each private college is asking for money and why should IIT's and Medical College should not provide the same level of chance. If you have to took the reservation out then put a way like IIT have done that no one could competite more than once for the same exams then we will see who is talented and who is not.
Your talent is bought talent, which is artificial and we people from lower communities are naturally talented and even without resources are better than most of you. Do you need the list of people, who comprises of 70% software industry????
Dear All,
Reservation if has some good things then it has also the bad aspects. The one and most dangerous is the tendency of Reserved Candidates thinking and attitude. Which will harm our society in a long term. The reservation when was applied the it was neccessary and as well as needed too but now i this modern era one should think about general candidates too who do not have enough money to suvive and do not have enough resources. I think in place of reservation there shuould be enough resources for the candidates.
Dear Mr Don,
IIT's and IIM's are the quality institutes in the country, which are known in india as well as abroad to produce quality professionals. So the first thing, the reservation in these institutes will degrade the quality produced by them. so the reservation protest is in existence. same argument goes for medical institutes also. Actually the reservation cirteria is a BIG MISTAKE by Indian government which needs to be re-structured. The reservarion shall only be limited till the fee of the form or the fee of the institute, so as to facilitate poors to be able to give the exams of such colleges, and after getting into them able to complete their studies successfully. Rest the criteria for reserving seats is a political drama to gain more votes. Why reserve seats and give special treatment to some. If the person is able enough to crack IIT and IIM he will do, even if there is no reservation ( for seats ) in the institutes.
So, buddies no to reservation, as far as the criteria for selection ( the merit marks ) or seats is concerned. If we want to help poors, there can be a low fee for the forms of the entrance, and subsequently, low fee for them or if the person is brilliant enough he can get scholarships also.
there is so much for poors, then Y NEED RESERVATION ?
Thanks Mr. Ankur,
But only for going through the whole matter and trying to give me the answers. But I want to raise one question, why not you have talked about the facilities, Coaching institutions, Guides, Guess papers and paper leakage issues. Do any teacher want to took care of economically poor students? Yes!! if one is able to crack into IIM's and IIT's then he do not need the reservations, but really are the examinations are being organized in fair manners?
There are specialist teachers who are making the exams like they are not search of raw talent but like these are how systematically and perfectly one chooses the individual subject teachers. In kanpur, the biggies claim to give arround 1000 selection from only one city and similar case about Kota and New Delhi (FITJEE and Brillient Tutorials) and do you know how much it costs for one student to move in to that (Note that I am talking about IIT's only not Medical and MBA)?
After service charges, teacher are expecting to get more than 15000 per students for only one course and also it took 1000/- per month for the room rent to stay in these city and similar for fooding and others, do you think that you have kept the things so simple for poors?? Could you say that you have left the competition so fair that one even best talented guy could crack the examination exactly according to his/her talent?
Yes!! I admit the political system and reservation system is faulty and it is benefiting many time to people, who are not liable to that but for only a few people, it is not fair that you try to ruin the 70% population, who really needs the reservation at least in now days. Low fees and scholarships came after if the guy got the admissions, if not then ......
When the higher class is taking even talent search examinations so professionally that no boy from a middle class family or from a villege school could think of getting into IIT or IIM, then why not to seek for reservation even in IIT's, IIM's and Medical Colleges?
I hope you will come up with a suitable answer.
As about the blog owner, I have read Nitish's other article and want to praise his ways and expeting that he will too write on this matter more as I know he will sure be honest on the issue. As about my introduction then I will sure give that to you but this time the debate is more important.
I was really fearing of this. I know that it is a nightmare to see a Nitish Kumar against you. I have seen your strength in campaigning for Sandeep in Indian Idol and I better know what you could make.
It was a bit disappointing that this time I need to oppose you.
Really, you are talking like a well established and rich person, who has not to actually face the situation. From your side, it looks so easy to talk about quality and competition of World Market. Note that not only Doctors and Engineers but many other professionals are getting much praise all over the world and this is not fair to say that if we will get some more OBC's or some confirmed numberof OBCs, then it will come degradation of quality.
In fact, it is not so that OBCs are going to get some more seats, in fact they are already cracking into General seats, where there is a reservation and where this is not. So, i do not think that a formal reservation system is going to make much difference on general and it is just disgusting to hear this much cry on it.
My dear!! do you all really rhink so that the position of OBCs has became much stronger that it may be compared to General ones, then why most of the big IAS officers, main Interviewers, Military Officers and a lot of Buerocrats are from Generals?
Who is saying that IAS exams and Government Jobs are loosing their charm. In fact, it is inclination of OBCs, who are now more concious about their rights and that's why the situation is showing some positive signs for future. But positive signs do not mean that each and every one got the profit, in fact, it indicates that a section of this society started to get the profits. If we do not think that there is any need to remove the reservation from all the other fields and we accept that they need it then what is special about IIT's and IIM's?
Definately, we need at least for next ten years.
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Don!! I am said that you have such a hard opinion, I might answer this, but bsy ne, otherwise, I was sure going to give you the answer
Welcome man!! definately we all are with you. thanks for joining the protests. I are always with you.
The way in which you have presented your thoughts is very good. hope to see you with the same fire.
I am Alakh from New Delhi, I have passed MBBS one year ago and now trying to set up my clinic.
I could really understand your feeling on seeing lesser number of comment on this article but it does not mean that this is not of that much worth. You have done excellent as usual, really there are somethings which only you could do in your own unique style.
Anyway.... currently nothing to say on the debate but sure will do, if got time.
Take care, bye and keep writing for sure.